In this weather? Yes I would say so, if you wanted to continue using the swimming pool at this time of the year. Why have a swimming pool and only use it for just 5 months of the year? A pool enclosure is well worth every penny.
We renovated a swimming pool inside a pool enclosure during a cold February, when some days had ground, it became quite warm inside the enclosure, eventually, we had to change into T-shirts and shorts… It was that warm, and is warm enough to swim in… Amazing!
If you enjoy swimming then an enclosure would be an ideal addition to your swimming pool, better than an outdoor pool with no enclosure waiting till late spring before you start using your pool again.
Here are the benefits of a pool enclosure:
No need to keep looking at the weather forecast or worrying about the evening light disappearing.
It can be cooler outside but lovely and warm inside the enclosure.
No leaves, very little debris falling in, so much less time wasted on pool maintenance, vacuuming and back-washing the pool filter.
Saves wear and tear, because some of the equipment is used less often
Swimming pool enclosure
You use much less pool chemicals.
Using less heat and fuel, saving you money on your fuel bill.
Less wear and tear on the heater, the pool pump and filter.
The pool enclosure is an additional room to your main home.
Increases your property value.
At the end of the season while other pool owners are considering winterising their pools, you will still be using yours.
Your swimming pool enclosure is also an extra room in your home.
Low profile enclosures
So consider is it worth using your pool for longer, rather than having to winterise the pool and closing it down for 6 months of the year?
Instead of using the pool from April to September extend the use of your swimming season by an extra 12 to 14 weeks, or maybe all the way through the winter. John Cox TnISPE(Cert)
Gloucester Bristol London Cardiff
What does it cost to replace a swimming pool liner?
Every swimming pool has distinctive characteristics, for example:
The shape of the pool.
The length and width.
What is the depth of the pool
What are the walls constructed of? i.e Steel wall panels or built using sand, cement and concrete building blocks?
Some pool liners take longer to change than others.
Stone coping needs re-bedding or replacing.
The liner-lock edge has worn down and the liner has detached from it.
It is possible the fittings are incorrectly positioned.
The fittings are damaged and need replacing.
The pools pipe lines are leaking.
The pool shell is damaged.
A swimming pool in Gloucestershire UK had various tropical and goldfish as ell as aquatic plants, and we had to employ the services of a sludge gulper asthere was about 3 ft (1 metre) of sludge in the bottom of the swimming pool.
We should have called it a pond although I must mention when an owner doesn’t want the use of a swimming pool again, we do offer a service option to convert the swimming pool to a wildlife pond or a natural swimming pool.
You wouldn’t know there was a swimming pool by the time we had finished.
Replacing the pool liner on other swimming pools occasionally takes more time than we wish, and as mentioned above it’s mainly down to several items like:
Maybe the fitting and face-plate unions are defective.
Or the pool pipes are leaking and new pipe lines have to be installed.
Often the swimming pool structure needs minor repairs.
This is to the walls and the base of the pool where the floor is either made up of a sand screed or an inadequate mix of cement and sand screed is washed away through water leaking through the pool liner.
Other times it may be the pools outlets are in the wrong position, for example a deep suction inlet maybe too close to the pool floor, other items for another example a concrete tiled pool conversion to a liner pool where the fittings have to be changed and either two new drains or deep suction inlets (over a 2 metres apart for safety reasons) have to be built in.
Sometimes the pool owner wants to change the heating system or replace the old stone coping and paving area, in which case, these jobs are usually completed before replacing the pool liner, hence why the liner change over takes longer to proceed.
John Cox TnISPE (Institute of Swimming Pool Engineers – ISPE)
Do you or anyone else like the water experience of swimming, diving, snorkelling, playing games in the pool, getting fit?
Are you prepared to spend some money and take some time out on the swimming pool for heating, pool chemicals and maintenance chores?
“Does this sound like I’m trying to put you off?”
Well not really! I am just bringing up some points to consider before you buy a home with a swimming pool!
If the decision is in favour of having the swimming pool, you may consider commissioning a separate survey to inspect the pool. More often than not the property surveyor may suggest that a suitably experience person from a swimming pool installation company surveys the swimming pool.
A swimming pool survey may be a valuable tool to have when making an offer on a property that has a swimming a pool with it?
If the pool survey suggests that a further investigation is required or the survey reveals defects with the swimming pool and the possibility that the pool may need a new liner, or some repairs carried out
This is where a pool survey can give some leverage on the asking price when negotiating with the seller. It can give you a good indication on the state and condition of the pool and could save you pounds in the long run. A pool survey is a good investment, and well worth every penny and peace of mind.
If you suspect your swimming pool is leaking there are a number of steps you could take to locate the leak(s). You can request a pool survey, but first try these step by step approaches below These will eliminate some of the suspects in finding where the pool is losing water from.
First fill the pool up to the usual level and place a mark on the wall to where the level is.
Take note of the time and leave for 24 hours, then measure from the mark down to the water level and make a note.
Calculate the length x width of the swimming pool x the depth measurement of water loss that you noted.
This will give you the volume of water in cubic metres (or cubic feet if you prefer) that the pool has lost over 24 hours.
Further calculation will work out how many litres or gallons per hour the pool is losing water.
Take a close look for any holes or tears in the liner fabric.
If it’s a concrete pool, look for tiles or mosaics that have come loose off the wall or from the pool floor in places.
Can you see any cracks in the walls or the floor of the swimming pool?
A crack in the rendering could potentially be where the water is leaking from and further investigation may be needed to determine the extent of possible damage to the pools shell.
Look carefully at your roman end or pool steps, there may be slight cracks on the treads or the rises so have a good look all over the sides of the steps.
Sometimes pool skimmers crack due to poor maintenance, frost damage or general old age and deterioration.
Check the returns for signs of ware.
Main drains and underwater lights are obviously more difficult to get at to check for leaks, so unless you know what to do, this is best left to an expert to determine if there a leak around these fittings.
In concrete pools, it is often either a breakdown of materials of poor workmanship that causes the leak, i.e. Not sealing around the inlets, the skimmers and main drains correctly. Check around hand rails as well.
Inspect around the filter, pool pump, valves, multi-ports, and filter lid, pipes, and the connections.
Sometimes a gasket fails leading to water leaking from the connection.
Look over the heat ex changers, and pool heater these can corroded.
For other clues check underneath the fittings for wetness, look for puddles of water.If we are fortunate to have weeks of hot weather or you have an indoor pool use the bucket test.
Shotcrete and Gunite pools are notorious for leaks.
If constructed incorrectly the structure will eventually breakdown and become nothing more than soggy paper cup.
This is because the water has seeped through the finished lining, be it tile or render and has aggravated the matrix of the concrete breaking down the bonds that hold the shell together.
As opposed to liner pools, concrete swimming pools are built with reinforced concrete walls and flooring, several coats of waterproof render covering the shell, followed by
tile-bands and marble type render finish, or covered with mosaics or tiles which are fixed on with waterproof adhesive and grouted. The plumbing system is installed during the construction process and that is the finished product.
When a concrete pool “shell” begins to leak, it’s usually in more than one section of the pool and there may be unseen underlying problem with the construction itself.
Patching and re-rendering the swimming pool is not always a good idea and you may be throwing good money away. The only answer apart from fibre glassing the pool is to line the shell with a heavy duty 1.5mm thick vinyl liner with a felt underlay. These types of liners have 10 year guarantee.
For help in locating and finding leaks and possible swimming pool renovations, plus more informationabout leaking pools, or if you are about to purchase a property with a swimming pool and require a swimming pool survey contact John Cox TnISPE. Covering most areas from London Gloucester Oxfordshire Bath Bristol Herefordshire to Cardiff Swansea and West Wales
Some pools have been installed in basements and on purposely strengthened flat roofs.
so a swimming pool may be installed just about anywhere it is permissible.
Add to the size of the swimming pool enough room to walk around the pool. The walkway and lounging areas are usually about 3ft to 6ft wide, and much more on at the shallow end of the pool, allowing for tables chairs, room to move and mingle, barbecue, loungers, maybe a pool slide and so on and easy access for maintenance.
You may need to allow for a plant room where the filter, heater and pump is to be housed. Some pool owners locate the pool plant in their garage or already have a shed ready.
Do you need somewhere to shower especially before you get into a pool, so consider a changing room and also storage lockers for safety equipment, pool toys, loungers and games, a secured, tamper proof container for pool chemical storage?
Regarding indoor pools allow for environmental control systems these are the dehumidifiers of the swimming pool building.
Obstructions must be considered before selecting a final pool site. These could include underground services like phone and electric cables, gas lines, septic tanks and drainage, Wells, trees, and overhead power lines. Underground obstruction and utilities should be located before excavation begins. Utility companies will usually locate underground pipes and cables that are located on your property for you. If any of these underground services are unavoidable, a compromise must be reached in where the pool is to be located, keep in mind labour and material costs of moving or replacing services and obstructions.
Which type of heating do you require? Heat pumps are favoured at the moment and these are “air source” heat pumps where the heat pump is relying on the ambient air temperature to get the pool up nice and warm. Ground source heat pumps are more capable of supplying heat to your pool nearly all year round, as the heat is taken from the ground is a constant temperature of around 10°C all the time.
Other accessories to consider are
Walk in steps like a Roman end.
A pool slide.
A counter current to swim against.
Automatic chemical dosing.
Solar covers to trap the suns energy.
Winter cover when closing down in the cold season.
Enclosures so you may swim all year round whatever the weather.
There are many things to consider when locating your swimming pool in your garden. Remember with swimming pools as with everything brand new accept there will come a time where some repairs and possible renovations may be needed.
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Allow enough room to walk around the pool and for outdoor furniture.
Allow for a plant room and maybe a changing room, storage lockers for safety equipment, pool toys and games.
Have a secure tamper-proof container for pool chemical storage. and pool maintenance and repair equipment
For Indoor pools allow for environmental control systems.
Obstructions to excavation and construction must be considered before selecting a final pool site. This is the responsibility of the customer to find out where the obstructions (if any) are located, and decide the next step with the swimming pool builder.
The obstruction may include underground wires, gas lines, septic tanks and drainage, water wells, running springs and streams, plumbing, trees, and overhead power lines.
Underground obstruction and utilities should be located before excavation begins.
Utility companies will usually locate underground pipes and cables that are located on your property for a charge to you.
If various obstructions are unavoidable, a compromise can be reached, but keep in mind labour and material costs of moving or replacing obstructions.
Choose an avenue of least resistance for the sake of practicality and economy.
Trees and foliage are another consideration for the pool location, unfortunately trees and pools do not make good bedfellows, so location of the pool needs to be away from trees.
These stages of pool construction are usually straightforward as opposes to say building a house or an extension. However. there are many parts of this process to be aware of, for example:
Do you know what is beneath your feet?
.Ground conditions for your swimming pool installation is very diverse in parts of Monmouthshire Gloucestershire Herefordshire and the Bristol, in fact everywhere in the UK there can be anything beneath your feet from rock or sand to clay, old infill sites, underground springs or high water tables, Whatever the subsoil is, there is a method for dealing with most of these obstacles
A high water table is a major factor to consider when installing a pool. It may be practical to raise the finished pool level to avoid later problem associated with a high water table other options are land drainage and submersible pumps.
Proper pool orientation will take advantage of sunny days for comfortable swimming condition and decrease heating costs. Prevailing wind direction should also be noted for the position of the pool skimmer and returns .
Under “Permitted Development rights” you can build a swimming pool within your garden, provided that the total area covered by the pool does not exceed 50%?of the area of the garden. However you will need planning permission for a swimming pool if: (Check with your area planning dept as the planning laws may have changed since going to press).
The swimming pool is located beyond the side elevation of the property and faces the highway
Is within 2m of a boundary, the maximum height of any structure is greater than 2.5m.
If the pool is located on a site where the property is a listed building, in conservation areas, national parks, ANOB, The Broads, World heritage sites.
The structure has a veranda, balcony or raised platform.
This is short explanation on the merits of two different types of swimming pool construction.
Concrete swimming pools
First a tiled concrete pool is a waterproof concrete shell where the surface of the pool is finished with tiles or mosaics covering the rendered surface of the pool shell. The tiles can be produced in many different dimensions. The mosaics come (usually), in sizes 20 x 20 x 4mm and the sheet size is 300mm x 300mm square.
Or it can be special marble type render that usually come in the form of 25kg bags. The marble render is used in conjunction with a tile band laid around the top edge of the swimming pool (again the usual size of the top band is 300mm), and a tile band on the floor adjacent or parallel to the pool walls usually 3 mosaic tiles wide.
A liner pool is much different to build as it involves installing a purpose made vinyl lining specifically designed to mimic a tiled or plain coloured concrete pool. In fact to the untrained eye you would not know the difference until you looked very close at the surface and touched the walls.
A swimming pool with a liner
Both methods of construction are totally different as the shell of a concrete pool is designed specifically to hold water and (believe it or not) the shell (Block walls and base) of a liner pool is designed “not” to be water proof and not to hold water as the liner pool shell/structure relies exclusively on the actual vinyl liner “only” is the waterproof membrane that holds the body of water in.
Liner pools are specifically designed to be much quicker greener to install than a concrete pool with less subsoil to be excavated and building materials to use.
A concrete pool is more than three or more times the cost of a top of the range liner pool.
Also the construction of the concrete tiled pool can take a tremendous amount of materials to build.
It can take three to four times as long to construct a tiled concrete pool as a liner pool.
This is mainly due to the curing and drying times of the materials needed for each stage of construction. (i.e. the cement rendering on the wall surfaces may need 3 or 4 weeks or more sometimes to cure and dry depending on conditions).
However a concrete tiled pool is more flexible when it comes to different “designs” much more than a liner pool, as the liner pool is governed by a made to measure vinyl liner is fabricated at the factory.
You still can have a liner pool of any shape or size but this would require “on-site lining” where the liner is welded to the shape of the swimming pool on site.
One must take into account when excavating for your swimming pool of what there is beneath your feet. (Type of subsoil).
In our area of Monmouthshire we have rock, clay and pit sand this is the same across the border into Gloucestershire. In and around the Cardiff area there’s a geologist’s treasure trove of different subsoil’s and rock formations.
However where you may find clay in as particular location, just a few metres away there may be rock or even a running spring.
So when deciding to build a swimming pool, try to find out what type of subsoil there is below ground as it can make a big difference to where you position your swimming pool.
There are several check lists below to assist you in finding the possible reasons why your swimming pool is leaking
If the liner installed has been bedded in for a long time and has had numerous repairs and patches, it maybe false economy to continue repairing the liner, so consider whether it’s better to replace it altogether?
The bonus for replacing your vinyl liner is your pool should almost look brand new again. If you decide it’s worth changing your liner before installing the liner pressure clean the surrounds and the pools coping stones or if they are worn have them replaced
First of all an example of why it maybe time to change the pool liner
This example (to the right) in this pool liner image is that it looks old and has lost its vibrant colouring. It had pin hole leaks as well as some tears in the liner.
Some of the coping stones were loose and dangerous, all the coping stones were taken up and relayed, before relaying we removed the old liner lock and fixed new track then the poolliner was replaced
The reason for replacing all the pipework is simple. When you’ve excavated one section down to the pipework that’s leaking and repaired it. there’s always the potential for another leak to appear in the pipework. later in time. which will cost more in the long run and is a false economy, so sometimes it’s better to replace the lot then you know that the pipework laid is not leaking. (assuming the pipework is done correctly.
The filter, heating and the pool pump
The possible causes of leaking.
Filter connections and gaskets damaged or degraded.
Multi-port spider gasket, O’ring has degraded or damaged.
Drain valve broken.
Filter unit has cracked.
Pump leaking through joints, broken gaskets, ceramic seal on the impeller
Depending on the nature of the leak in a liner pool, sometimes these can be repaired underwater.
However the liner maybe to old and brittle to repair and in the end there is no alternative but to install a replacement liner.
There is a range of liner colours and patterns to chose from.If the swimming pool is looked after, winterised & summerisedcorrectly, has a good pool maintenance record, regular checks on correct pH, total alkalinity, chemical balance then serious leaks and repairs should be a rare occurrence. A pool liner could last around 8 to 10 years or even longer in some cases.
It may be that your swimming pool liner is leaking, or the colour has faded so you’re considering changing the old liner.
A new liner makes a lot of difference however, before you have your old pool liner, changed,
Think about having the stone coping and deck surround pressure cleaned. There’s nothing worse than to notice after the liner is installed that the surrounds look tatty and bedraggled…
Look around your swimming pool to see if there are any loose or chipped coping stones? You may want to replace these as they potentially catch a swimmers foot and other parts of the body. (Especially the younger swimmers and toddlers)
If there is loose or damaged pool coping, decide whether to change some or all of them.
If you favour changing all of the coping, your swimming pool will look like the first time it was installed, brand new, fresh and clean again.
Furthermore, ask the pool liner installers, (before the order goes through to the liner manufacturers) that you wish to look at a sample book, so you can consider an alternative pattern or colour.
Don’t forget about the pool decking. If you have paving around your pool you should check for loose, cracked or wobbly paving. These again are unsafe for pool users and should be repaired, relayed or replaced before the pool liner is installed and you start using your swimming pool.
It is nice to see an old swimming pool renovated and look revamped and new again. Automatic pool covers keep the debris down and there’s less maintenance to do to the pool water
A good idea is to take some photo’s of your swimming pool as it is now, during and when the pool liner is replaced and the pool is finished.
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